Couldn’t have said it better myself.
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Tavistock may have got a few things wrong in terms of procedure and protocol but I don't think rabid commercialism over and above patient care was one of them.
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That's putting it mildly!
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The fact a child can not smoke drink or gamble but can take puberty blocker is INSANITY
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Treat the human not the moral outrage.
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What's moral about adults altering children's genitalia, especially for an ideology that shouldn’t concern children in the first place? Justify that if you can, Ant.
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If you don't believe in gender disphoria as a conditon rather than an ideology there isn't much else to discuss. Once you get over that hurdle the fact that children also suffer from it is somewhat irrelevant. Treatment (whatever that maybe) isn't imposed on them, it's done with their absolute consent and collaboration because it has to be.
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It's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
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Too late how? Giving prepubescent children life changing treatment without a direct and meaningful medical benefit is pointless.Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 amIt's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
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Gender dysphoria, social acceptance, and sexual questioning are different things. Studies over the decades have shown that children often seek social acceptance, leading to trends or fads. In my time, in the mid noughties, as Sadders and Zippy may attest, it was emo culture; in the '70s, androgyny became popular due to the Glam Rock movement, and the Sixties saw the rise of hippie culture. Transgenderism, virtually unknown to the majority a decade ago, has became another such trend, one that is currently, thankfully, fizzling out, especially amongst youngsters, and being replaced by 'YK2.'Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 amIt's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
Questioning one's identity and sexuality is a natural part of growing up. Rarely – and it's important to emphasise, only rarely – this exploration leads to gender dysphoria. It's scary that some adults with so-called medical expertise automatically label most referred children as suffering from this condition and therefore require irreversible surgery, without considering the possibility that they may simply be going through adolescence or conforming to the choices of their friends, who may also identify as 'they/them', 'zhe/zir', or whatever.
But, I digress... My point is, children (U18 in the UK) should never undergo surgical alterations, nor should they be hastily diagnosed as 'trans' without careful consideration of the circumstances I outlined above.
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Christ!Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 amIt's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
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Male circumcision should also be bannedlambrini wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:48 pmGender dysphoria, social acceptance, and sexual questioning are different things. Studies over the decades have shown that children often seek social acceptance, leading to trends or fads. In my time, in the mid noughties, as Sadders and Zippy may attest, it was emo culture; in the '70s, androgyny became popular due to the Glam Rock movement, and the Sixties saw the rise of hippie culture. Transgenderism, virtually unknown to the majority a decade ago, has became another such trend, one that is currently, thankfully, fizzling out, especially amongst youngsters, and being replaced by 'YK2.'Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 amIt's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
Questioning one's identity and sexuality is a natural part of growing up. Rarely – and it's important to emphasise, only rarely – this exploration leads to gender dysphoria. It's scary that some adults with so-called medical expertise automatically label most referred children as suffering from this condition and therefore require irreversible surgery, without considering the possibility that they may simply be going through adolescence or conforming to the choices of their friends, who may also identify as 'they/them', 'zhe/zir', or whatever.
But, I digress... My point is, children (U18 in the UK) should never undergo surgical alterations, nor should they be hastily diagnosed as 'trans' without careful consideration of the circumstances I outlined above.
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Yes. The poor devils don't have a choice.Vespa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:53 pmMale circumcision should also be bannedlambrini wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:48 pmGender dysphoria, social acceptance, and sexual questioning are different things. Studies over the decades have shown that children often seek social acceptance, leading to trends or fads. In my time, in the mid noughties, as Sadders and Zippy may attest, it was emo culture; in the '70s, androgyny became popular due to the Glam Rock movement, and the Sixties saw the rise of hippie culture. Transgenderism, virtually unknown to the majority a decade ago, has became another such trend, one that is currently, thankfully, fizzling out, especially amongst youngsters, and being replaced by 'YK2.'Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:59 amIt's not an ideology but a response to a problem.
As to the comparison with stopping children drinking and smoking, that's a false comparison. This action is taken when it is because when they reach 18 or so it would be too late. However well or badly it is being implemented.
Questioning one's identity and sexuality is a natural part of growing up. Rarely – and it's important to emphasise, only rarely – this exploration leads to gender dysphoria. It's scary that some adults with so-called medical expertise automatically label most referred children as suffering from this condition and therefore require irreversible surgery, without considering the possibility that they may simply be going through adolescence or conforming to the choices of their friends, who may also identify as 'they/them', 'zhe/zir', or whatever.
But, I digress... My point is, children (U18 in the UK) should never undergo surgical alterations, nor should they be hastily diagnosed as 'trans' without careful consideration of the circumstances I outlined above.
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