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Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:40 am
by paolo
No way would they have broken Maryland Martitime Laws by not having a local pilot on board......

Church Spire

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:24 am
by paolo
Was Mitch McConnell, the guy with the on off switch, was his sister in law who was Clintoned/drowned in a Tesla the ceo of the company that owned the ship that hit the bridge?

I heard it on tiswas

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:41 am
by Sunbeam Alpine
paolo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:07 am Amazing way to disable major infrastructure

Probably a Ukrainian captain

Get ready for more

Conspire
More nonsense

If the ship lost power, pilot or not, in a situation like that, it's not surprising it hit the bridge.

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:47 am
by The Ghost of Alex Higgins

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:50 pm
by Sid Pervcat
Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:41 am
paolo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:07 am Amazing way to disable major infrastructure

Probably a Ukrainian captain

Get ready for more

Conspire
More nonsense

If the ship lost power, pilot or not, in a situation like that, it's not surprising it hit the bridge.
Sense of humour sadly lacking

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm
by birdie
Listening to various reports and reading between the lines it looks as though there may have been an bit of cost cutting.
My brother-in-law spent his working life, from the age of 17, on merchant vessels, anything from tankers, bulk carriers reefers and containers, he was what is jokingly called a 'chOffer' and he said that it was unusual for a ship of that size and in that location not to have a couple of tugs helping to guide the vessel out of port, and in a case of a power outage and loss of control the tugs would have been able to guide the vessel out of any danger. But, of course, tugs and river pilots don't come cheap, and it could be that the company was seeking to keep outgoings at a minimum.

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:25 pm
by Carlos J
birdie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm Listening to various reports and reading between the lines it looks as though there may have been an bit of cost cutting.
My brother-in-law spent his working life, from the age of 17, on merchant vessels, anything from tankers, bulk carriers reefers and containers, he was what is jokingly called a 'chOffer' and he said that it was unusual for a ship of that size and in that location not to have a couple of tugs helping to guide the vessel out of port, and in a case of a power outage and loss of control the tugs would have been able to guide the vessel out of any danger. But, of course, tugs and river pilots don't come cheap, and it could be that the company was seeking to keep outgoings at a minimum.
This article, with views from a ship's captain, says there were two pilots on board, plus there are state and federal laws about it: https://theconversation.com/ive-captain ... ons-226700

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:32 pm
by birdie
Happy to be corrected, I confess I haven't watched any news today due to personal circumstances, but will try to catch up later.

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:06 pm
by Carlos J
birdie wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:32 pm Happy to be corrected, I confess I haven't watched any news today due to personal circumstances, but will try to catch up later.
No worries as things still ongoing. Hope all OK?

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:14 pm
by finchman
Tasmania 1975 all over again.

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:34 pm
by Sadact7
paolo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:07 am Amazing way to disable major infrastructure

Probably a Ukrainian captain

Get ready for more

Conspire
:D

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:39 am
by paolo
1:27 am....bridge collapses

midday...Biden says USA will pay and get it rebuilt

East Palestine....nothing

Hawaii....nothing

what about the boat's insurers?

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:52 am
by Carlos J
paolo wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:39 am 1:27 am....bridge collapses

midday...Biden says USA will pay and get it rebuilt

East Palestine....nothing

Hawaii....nothing

what about the boat's insurers?
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. (Matthew 7:7 KJV)

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1148669/Ma ... e-collapse

and:

https://www.reuters.com/business/insure ... 024-03-27/

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am
by Zambo
Whether or not the ship was in a seaworthy condition, could be a big factor here.

Re: Baltimore bridge collapse

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:10 am
by JimmyDee
Zambo wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am Whether or not the ship was in a seaworthy condition, could be a big factor here.
At least the front didn't fall off.

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Parody of an actual interview with an Australian politician after a real event.