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Britain is broken

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The only thing this Lineker episode has shown is how broken Britain has become.

This guy has it sussed.

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Yeah but Labour, woke, Harry and meghan, Sadiq khan, dinghies, single mothers, gays, Muslims, welfare benefits, left wing civil servants, students, the BBC, the EU, foreigners in general, remainers, environmentalists....

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The guy called it right, but do labour offer anything different?
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JudgeTedd wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 5:14 am The only thing this Lineker episode has shown is how broken Britain has become.

This guy has it sussed.

Absolutely. Let's hope the majority of people in the UK agree with him.
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I blame Corbyn,Thornberry,Abbott,McDonnell and all the other left wing idiots who gave the tories a massive 80 seat majority.
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Dere's more to England den dis !
Stuff is fucked though .. don't even bother sending a letter, might as well throw it in the bin eg
And yeah Sadiq Khan, the current Labour govt in waiting god help us and fuck em all

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The country has been broken for years.
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beingsoblase wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:51 am The guy called it right, but do labour offer anything different?
Of course not. Yesterday they said "we support families." What does this even mean? And to those of us who don't have families (as in children), I suppose we're obsolete(?)
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He was spot on when he said the Tories couldn't fight the next election on their record of this last Parliament . It's been a fucking shambles

Maybe if they had carried out the promises they made at the last election , which i believe promised to stop the invasion and control the borders , they may have stood a chance .

Alas , it's too late and as the OP suggests , Britain is broken and there's no going back :(
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lambrini wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:21 am The country has been broken for years.
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Salem wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am He was spot on when he said the Tories couldn't fight the next election on their record of this last Parliament . It's been a fucking shambles

Maybe if they had carried out the promises they made at the last election , which i believe promised to stop the invasion and control the borders , they may have stood a chance .

Alas , it's too late and as the OP suggests , Britain is broken and there's no going back :(
I think it can bounce back. The fundamental problem is the British political system views its people as a cost, not an asset. Higher taxes and well-run public systems, so people can be well-educated, have good jobs, be safe and healthy, is the cornerstone of societies that invest in their people. We've just never had an honest conversation about tax and spend.

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Don't get me started on infrastructure :x
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Vespa wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am
Salem wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am He was spot on when he said the Tories couldn't fight the next election on their record of this last Parliament . It's been a fucking shambles

Maybe if they had carried out the promises they made at the last election , which i believe promised to stop the invasion and control the borders , they may have stood a chance .

Alas , it's too late and as the OP suggests , Britain is broken and there's no going back :(
I think it can bounce back. The fundamental problem is the British political system views its people as a cost, not an asset. Higher taxes and well-run public systems, so people can be well-educated, have good jobs, be safe and healthy, is the cornerstone of societies that invest in their people. We've just never had an honest conversation about tax and spend.
A couple of days ago I was listening to a discussion about childcare.
A woman called in. British, but married to a German. Both professionals.
They had lived in Berlin when their children were born, but moved here recently ( I think to Leicester).
They have both resumed their careers here.
She was shocked. In Berlin childcare was free. Here is is (a) hard to find and (b) expensive ( she mentioned £13000 per child). There is a childcare payment, but not enough and not for high earners.
For two children they have to earn £32k before tax just to have their children cared for.
They have been talking about her giving up her career.
In Berlin public transport was easy , cheap and reliable.. Here they have had to buy a car.
Did they pay more tax in Germany? Yes, by about 10%
What did they get for that? See above. Lose your job, get 70% of what you earned for a year, then £600 pa after that.
What will the Tories offer at the next election? Lower taxes.
What will Labour offer? No higher taxes
No-one is prepared to grasp the nettle that we need higher taxes and greater infrastructure, both hard and soft.

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Vespa wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am
Salem wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am He was spot on when he said the Tories couldn't fight the next election on their record of this last Parliament . It's been a fucking shambles

Maybe if they had carried out the promises they made at the last election , which i believe promised to stop the invasion and control the borders , they may have stood a chance .

Alas , it's too late and as the OP suggests , Britain is broken and there's no going back :(
I think it can bounce back. The fundamental problem is the British political system views its people as a cost, not an asset. Higher taxes and well-run public systems, so people can be well-educated, have good jobs, be safe and healthy, is the cornerstone of societies that invest in their people. We've just never had an honest conversation about tax and spend.
I'd vote for this vision all day long

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Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:35 pm
Vespa wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:22 am
Salem wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am He was spot on when he said the Tories couldn't fight the next election on their record of this last Parliament . It's been a fucking shambles

Maybe if they had carried out the promises they made at the last election , which i believe promised to stop the invasion and control the borders , they may have stood a chance .

Alas , it's too late and as the OP suggests , Britain is broken and there's no going back :(
I think it can bounce back. The fundamental problem is the British political system views its people as a cost, not an asset. Higher taxes and well-run public systems, so people can be well-educated, have good jobs, be safe and healthy, is the cornerstone of societies that invest in their people. We've just never had an honest conversation about tax and spend.
A couple of days ago I was listening to a discussion about childcare.
A woman called in. British, but married to a German. Both professionals.
They had lived in Berlin when their children were born, but moved here recently ( I think to Leicester).
They have both resumed their careers here.
She was shocked. In Berlin childcare was free. Here is is (a) hard to find and (b) expensive ( she mentioned £13000 per child). There is a childcare payment, but not enough and not for high earners.
For two children they have to earn £32k before tax just to have their children cared for.
They have been talking about her giving up her career.
In Berlin public transport was easy , cheap and reliable.. Here they have had to buy a car.
Did they pay more tax in Germany? Yes, by about 10%
What did they get for that? See above. Lose your job, get 70% of what you earned for a year, then £600 pa after that.
What will the Tories offer at the next election? Lower taxes.
What will Labour offer? No higher taxes
No-one is prepared to grasp the nettle that we need higher taxes and greater infrastructure, both hard and soft.
Obviously didn't do their homework

Should have stayed in Berlin.
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