Quarter-finals: England vs France on 10th December

[kancutlawns]

This is the err business end of proceedings. Come on Engerland, let's give it the big 'un.

[antdad]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

[kancutlawns]

I didn’t when he played for the Villa.

[antdad]

...even when he wanted to leave?

[carcinogen]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

I don't like the fact that he lies: We'll pick players on form. I don't like liars, I never have.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Handbrake is so vanilla soy

[JimmyDee]

This is as far as the "experts" said was reasonable, before a ball was kicked.
Did anyone think that only three teams were better than England? Brazil, Argentina, Spain, France, Germany (before it started). There's five just off the top of my head. Normally you can add Italy to that list.
England aren't that good.

[antdad]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

I don't like the fact that he lies: We'll pick players on form. I don't like liars, I never have.

Maybe he means or meant for his country rather than club form.

[carcinogen]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

I don't like the fact that he lies: We'll pick players on form. I don't like liars, I never have.

Maybe he means or meant for his country rather than club form.

We all know what he meant, don't be coy.

[Sid Pervcat]

Gareth Blandgate is a cunt.

[kancutlawns]

...even when he wanted to leave?

What are you talking about?

[antdad]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

I don't like the fact that he lies: We'll pick players on form. I don't like liars, I never have.

Maybe he means or meant for his country rather than club form.

We all know what he meant, don't be coy.

I don't think I do, who do you mean in particular? I don't care for slab head but he's done alright and who else do we have?

[antdad]

...even when he wanted to leave?

What are you talking about?

I thought he put in a transfer request to leave Villa or he forced his exit?

[kancutlawns]

I don’t remember it that far back, only vaguely. It’s going back about 25 years. But you could be right.

[subsub]

If England lose would you still consider Southgate to be the utter failure you've always considered him to be?

England have reached the quarter-finals, which is what they should do given their ranking.
Any further in the competition would be a bonus.