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carcinogen wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:25 pm
You can't genuinely believe that.

The evidence is present with the results of the last 12 years of misrule, economic and social. Under the FPTP electoral system, Labour (or a Labour led coalition) is the best way to get us out of this.

Overused and lazy generalisations about non-Tory parties don't wash anymore.

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Neither Labour or the Tories are remotely fit to govern this country, imo.

Politics is in the gutter.

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Steve Hunt wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:23 am Neither Labour or the Tories are remotely fit to govern this country, imo.

Politics is in the gutter.
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Steve Hunt wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:23 am Neither Labour or the Tories are remotely fit to govern this country, imo.

Politics is in the gutter.
For whatever the reason and there are quite a few the political class in this country, on all sides, it at an all time low in terms of talent. I'm not sure how that can be resolved.
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carcinogen wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:18 am
Steve Hunt wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:23 am Neither Labour or the Tories are remotely fit to govern this country, imo.

Politics is in the gutter.
For whatever the reason and there are quite a few the political class in this country, on all sides, it at an all time low in terms of talent. I'm not sure how that can be resolved.
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carcinogen wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:18 am For whatever the reason and there are quite a few the political class in this country, on all sides, it at an all time low in terms of talent. I'm not sure how that can be resolved.
It's been like that for years, though. No-one in politics has ever done anything else, they either go via student politics or via a trade union. They know little else but election campaigns and opportunism to get them up the next step to Parliament. Once they get there they haven't got a clue about how the rest of us live, or see any further than the next election and how to keep their seat.

This is why Brexit turned out to be such a shambles; they couldn't just pass Brussels law on the nod any more, and were left to their own (pathetically inadequate) devices. I can't see Palmerston's Cabinet making such a fuck-up of a golden opportunity, but there you go.
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JimmyDee wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:18 pm

It's been like that for years, though. No-one in politics has ever done anything else, they either go via student politics or via a trade union.

Or hedge funds, investment banks, PR firms.

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The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:00 pm Or hedge funds, investment banks, PR firms.
BZZZZZ! Is that the bee in your bonnet? :-)
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Try owning a triple garage in Wigan under a Labour council.....if you think the tories are a bunch of inadequate clueless gobshites,(which they are), then you ain't seen fuck all yet.
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JimmyDee wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:22 am
The Tick wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:00 pm Or hedge funds, investment banks, PR firms.
BZZZZZ! Is that the bee in your bonnet? :-)
No more or no less than trade unions and students are for you :D

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The Tick wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:35 am No more or no less than trade unions and students are for you :D
I don't remember banging on about those things, in a daringly controversial way, but there you go.
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JimmyDee wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:45 am
The Tick wrote: Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:35 am No more or no less than trade unions and students are for you :D
I don't remember banging on about those things, in a daringly controversial way, but there you go.
You felt strongly enough to mention them in a disparaging fashion. That's a clear enough indicator.

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JimmyDee wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:18 pm
carcinogen wrote: Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:18 am For whatever the reason and there are quite a few the political class in this country, on all sides, it at an all time low in terms of talent. I'm not sure how that can be resolved.
It's been like that for years, though. No-one in politics has ever done anything else, they either go via student politics or via a trade union. They know little else but election campaigns and opportunism to get them up the next step to Parliament. Once they get there they haven't got a clue about how the rest of us live, or see any further than the next election and how to keep their seat.

This is why Brexit turned out to be such a shambles; they couldn't just pass Brussels law on the nod any more, and were left to their own (pathetically inadequate) devices. I can't see Palmerston's Cabinet making such a fuck-up of a golden opportunity, but there you go.
You know that's not true, there are, of course, those who have never done anything else, but many of them had careers before they went into politics. there are doctors, (who still practice part time), nurses, teachers, lawyers, the odd actress or two and TV presenters, but to say that no one in politics has never done anything else isn't wholy acurate.
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