Putin

[paolo]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

[AlcoholBrazil]

Just hope Putin has the sense to focus the nukes on Westminster, but the rats will have plenty of warning to hide for cover a mile underground .Bet the MP's nuclear bunker will even have a shopping mall and multiplex cinemas.

[Basualdo]

Just hope Putin has the sense to focus the nukes on Westminster, but the rats will have plenty of warning to hide for cover a mile underground .Bet the MP's nuclear bunker will even have a shopping mall and multiplex cinemas.

And rent boys and child brothels by the score.

[Rossco]

All right here. In order. I ain't gonna break it down. Work it out. Russia, Syria are there. Turkey to play a part as well with couple other...Persian lands...Iran. Work out the rest yourselves with Gods grace or your own understanding.

Will say this much. As far as I am aware that was originally wrote thousands of years ago. I have been led to study The Book of Isaiah the last two years and beforehand never once even would have looked at a Bible, nor knew of it outside of basic Jesus story...wee bits just... Ark story and David v a giant....basic level at that. The Ezekiel verse came from another person but adds up and matches what I have been lead to understand.

Read in order......tells it all and playing out in real time right now.....go figure!

Isaiah 17

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=KJV

Ezekiel 38

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=KJV

[carcinogen]

Putin respects aggression. If he senses weakness he'll strike (ie: NATO). I suspect he's a bit of a sadomasochist on the sly. He's certainly a narcissist (who wouldn't be in his position).

[Rossco]

Then there is the small matter of the naming of certain things. NATO name for it in article below...Russians call it the RS-28 Sarmat. Nice checker board design as well I noticed.



Cute huh

[Roy Twing]

A fun little interactive map:

https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/in ... ng=-0.1275

[Hillman avenger]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

[Darkyboy]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

Not the remotest chance? Are you serious? It's strange how quickly people rush to start conflict (Blair with Iraq) without concrete proof. Aren't you the one who says that you cannot assume guilt, just because you suspect someone of a crime? Yet, you seem quite happy to jump on the "it's definitely the Russians, let's punish them." bandwagon. As for bringing criticism of Trump into every debate, it shows that prejudice rules over rationality.

[AlcoholBrazil]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

I'll wave you off as you take your rifle and bayonet on the train to the East. Don't expect many will want to join you.

[Hillman avenger]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

Not the remotest chance? Are you serious? It's strange how quickly people rush to start conflict (Blair with Iraq) without concrete proof. Aren't you the one who says that you cannot assume guilt, just because you suspect someone of a crime? Yet, you seem quite happy to jump on the "it's definitely the Russians, let's punish them." bandwagon. As for bringing criticism of Trump into every debate, it shows that prejudice rules over rationality.

Nobody is rushing to conflict.
After all this time there has not been a coherent explanation of what happened, except that it was done by a Russian agent. Unless Russia owned up to it, what do you expect the UK to do? The leaders of other countries were shown the intelligence on it and were convinced to take the same action as us.
Putin thinks he can do anything. The reference to Trump is perfectly valid, as Putin thinks he can do anything without reaction from Trump.

[Roy Twing]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

Not the remotest chance? Are you serious? It's strange how quickly people rush to start conflict (Blair with Iraq) without concrete proof. Aren't you the one who says that you cannot assume guilt, just because you suspect someone of a crime? Yet, you seem quite happy to jump on the "it's definitely the Russians, let's punish them." bandwagon. As for bringing criticism of Trump into every debate, it shows that prejudice rules over rationality.

Agreed - remarkable (and very very worrying) how similar the rhetoric is now to the run up befire the Iraq invasion.
As you say, the 'independent' investigators haven't even completed their (foregone) conclusions yet regarding the source and nature of the alleged toxin.
To say there is not the remotest chance that anyone but russia commited the act is the mindset of the witchfinders of old.

[Darkyboy]

clearly the poking of the bear is intensified....still vlad remains calm

The "poking of the bear"...how could anyone have such a warped view as to what has happened in the last few weeks? There is not the remotest chance that the UK attacks came from anywhere but Russia. Putin thinks he is untouchable, especially with the cretin Trump in the White House.

Not the remotest chance? Are you serious? It's strange how quickly people rush to start conflict (Blair with Iraq) without concrete proof. Aren't you the one who says that you cannot assume guilt, just because you suspect someone of a crime? Yet, you seem quite happy to jump on the "it's definitely the Russians, let's punish them." bandwagon. As for bringing criticism of Trump into every debate, it shows that prejudice rules over rationality.

Nobody is rushing to conflict.
After all this time there has not been a coherent explanation of what happened, except that it was done by a Russian agent. Unless Russia owned up to it, what do you expect the UK to do? The leaders of other countries were shown the intelligence on it and were convinced to take the same action as us.
Putin thinks he can do anything. The reference to Trump is perfectly valid, as Putin thinks he can do anything without reaction from Trump.

I expect the UK to act when they have the full facts, or as near as they are ever going to get to full facts. They do not have those (they do not even know for sure where the toxin was planted, much less who planted it) and yet people are happy to escalate reprisals. As I said, having conclusive evidence matters in a court of law, but not in pushing the country towards conflict? How on earth is that acceptable? The other countries acted presumably because it is to punish the common enemy - Russia. It's the same as when countries vote in blocs at UN resolutions.

[Darkyboy]

Agreed - remarkable (and very very worrying) how similar the rhetoric is now to the run up befire the Iraq invasion.
As you say, the 'independent' investigators haven't even completed their (foregone) conclusions yet regarding the source and nature of the alleged toxin.
To say there is not the remotest chance that anyone but russia commited the act is the mindset of the witchfinders of old.

It is incredible how people get caught up in blame the bogeyman, before the evidence is conclusive. It almost smacks of McCarthyism paranoia in 1950s America. You would think that the Iraq debacle would be at the forefront of people's minds, but apparently not.

[m4rkb]

There are quite a few 'facts' that don't stack up in all of this.

I put the word 'facts' in inverted commas because who decides what the facts are is somewhat subjective and prone to an enormous amount of reliance on being told the truth.

If anyone's interested, Galloway's show last night highlighted many of the discrepancies and opportunities to spin propaganda over the matter very well.

It seems his best debates at the moment are with the traditional right wing as the shallowness of the left aren't up to anything more than name calling and wishing to shut it down.