The India vs England 2016 cricket thread

[Lou Grant]

Home advantage is huge. Do you know how rare it is to win a series away from home these days? There are no longer warm up matches to acclimatise. It's not an excuse, it is a proven statistic. People like Vaughan are attention seeking idiots. He said before the series started that we would lose 5-0. We haven't lost 5-0, so by his own analysis we have done better than he expected us to do. Now of course he is bleating that we haven't put up as good a fight as he was expecting. He's a moron.

I've at no point said England have covered themselves in glory here, but if you can't see the series within the context of where we are playing, within the context of the huge amount of cricket that money grabbers have forced us to play and that in India having a world class spinner is critical, then you are also deluded.

Whatever mind tricks you want to implement, I guarantee you they won't turn Moeen and Rashid into Swann and Panesaar or bowlers of their class.

I'd love the view of a real expert on here like Tennisman, because I know you'll never respect my opinion, but I think you'd give his a bit more credence. And I'd have a sly bet that he's more in tune with me than he is with Boycott or Vaughan.

[Zambo]

All I see in the main are excuses. I'm well aware of the advantsge you get when playing at home, and having a class specialist performer, but it's easy to categorise those as the reason that we lost. We didn't just lose though we were annhialated. That was not just down to being away or playing against one or two players who are better, the big reason imo is mentality.

Cook keeps telling us the team have learned lessons, but I don't see any evidence of it, all I see is pathetic application and no guts and grit, but it's what we have come to expect from our inconsistent sportsmen.

[Lou Grant]

The obligatory 'I Moeen' post

[Steve Hunt]

The obligatory 'I Moeen' post

It's the first time in 33 innings that England have had a century partnership for the third wicket.

[Lou Grant]

Root has got a worrying habit of not making centuries these days.

[subsub]

Root has got a worrying habit of not making centuries these days.

He's had a great series, but he should have turned more of those 70s and 80s into hundreds, and then we'd have been in a much stronger position.

[AlcoholBrazil]

All England care about is the flight home next Wednesday . The cricket they served up here is as welcome as cold turkey cuts on
January 2nd.

[subsub]

Great knock from Dawson on debut; him and Rashid took England from 321/7 to 429/8

[Lou Grant]

Oh look, another Bairstow drop. If you take away the extra runs scored by the players he's dropped from the runs he's scored, he'd be averaging about -35.

Shocking.

[Thursty]

Good to see the talkFORUM cricket brains trust still in full flow

[Zambo]

Will England get more than 150 in their 2nd innings. The odds are shortening by the ball.

Cook has to go as captain after this shambles and should only be selected on form, like some of the other rabble. Bayliss has to go, he's more like an insipid Englishman than an Aussie.

[AlcoholBrazil]

Another innings defeat. England don't want to be there and want to go home ASAP to get on the piss ASAP.


The useless bunch of cunts.

[Lou Grant]

Good to see the talkFORUM cricket brains trust still in full flow

Are you still in Oz? Fantastic test in Brisbane.

Can't wait for the India - Oz series in the spring, in which I will genuinely put my hand up and admit I've been wrong about England's performances if Australia go out there and win some tests.

[Zambo]

Good to see the talkFORUM cricket brains trust still in full flow

Are you still in Oz? Fantastic test in Brisbane.

Can't wait for the India - Oz series in the spring, in which I will genuinely put my hand up and admit I've been wrong about England's performances if Australia go out there and win some tests.

Whatever Australia do in India, will not change the view on England's performances, which have been a disgrace, particularly from an application, technique and psychological point of view.

They should come home in disgrace, but some no doubt will go back for a second holiday in Dubai for a deserved rest.

[Lou Grant]

I still long for tennisman's view on this series. I suspect he might have more perspective than you, but who knows?