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There were only 40 official allegations of sexual abuse made against Ted heath

The head of the police force investigating reports of child sexual abuse by Sir Edward Heath reportedly believes in the allegations “120 per cent”.

Chief Constable Mike Veale, of Wiltshire Police, is reportedly convinced by testimony from alleged victims of the former Conservative Prime Minister because they have given similar accounts to investigators.

In December Mr Veale defended the investigation and said it was not a “witch hunt”.

A source told the Mail on Sunday: “Mr Veale believes in them 120 per cent and thinks they are totally convincing. There are very close similarities in the accounts given by those who have come forward.

“The same names used for him, the same places and same type of incidents keep coming up. What stands out is that the people giving these accounts are not connected but the stories and the details dovetail. It contains disturbing stuff. Investigators have been shocked by what they have learned.”

In response to the report, a Wiltshire Police spokeswoman cited Mr Veale’s previous defence of the investigation.

He said at the time: “It is my role to ensure the investigation is proportionate, measured, legal and necessary. If abuse has occurred then it remains relevant to support those affected and seek to bring to justice any person still living who may have committed associated criminal offences.

“It is important to identify any vulnerable individuals who require safeguarding today. The legal role of the police service is to, on behalf of the public, impartially investigate allegations without fear or favour, and go where the evidence takes us.

“Critically, it is not the role of the police to judge the guilt or innocence of people in our criminal justice system. As this remains a live ongoing criminal investigation, unless there are operational reasons to do so we will not be commenting any further on the detail of this case until such time it has concluded.”

A second source told the newspaper they believed Wiltshire Police detectives had “come round to the view” that the claims had previously been covered up.

Sir Edward, who was Prime Minister between 1970 and 1974, died in 2005. He had lived in Salisbury for a number of years and Wiltshire Police appealed for information about claims he was involved in abusing children after the Independent Police Complaints Commission began investigating whether a similar claim, made in the 1990s, had been handled properly.

A retired senior officer alleged that Wiltshire Police deliberately caused a criminal prosecution to fail in 1994 after the defendant, a brothel owner, threatened to tell the press she supplied Sir Edward with underage boys for sex if the trial went ahead. But the trial was dropped because witnesses refused to testify, the IPCC said, and it found no evidence of wrongdoing.

At the time of its appeal, Wiltshire Police said: “Sir Edward Heath has been named in relation to offences concerning children. He lived in Salisbury for many years and we would like to hear from anyone who has any relevant information that may assist us in our enquiries or anyone who believes they may have been a victim.”

Nice
Do tell us

1975 67% of the voters voted to join.

BTW that was 48 years ago so anything released under the OS Act was out in 2005.

17.3m people voted to be in.

Please explain how a compromised politician would have manage that.

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:05 pm 1975 67% of the voters voted to join.

BTW that was 48 years ago so anything released under the OS Act was out in 2005.

17.3m people voted to be in.

Please explain how a compromised politician would have manage that.

In a similar way to how another compromised politician managed to lead the Country out of the organisation several years later. Permitted influence.

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:05 pm 1975 67% of the voters voted to join.

BTW that was 48 years ago so anything released under the OS Act was out in 2005.

17.3m people voted to be in.

Please explain how a compromised politician would have manage that.

*****Hillman On**********

We didn't vote to join

******Hillman Off*********

What?

Holden Mcgroyne wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:23 pm

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:05 pm 1975 67% of the voters voted to join.

BTW that was 48 years ago so anything released under the OS Act was out in 2005.

17.3m people voted to be in.

Please explain how a compromised politician would have manage that.

*****Hillman On**********

We didn't vote to join

******Hillman Off*********

We didn't vote to join, but we had a referendum a few years later as to whether we wanted to stay or leave, so the country voted to stay, in THE COMMON MARKET, not what is has now become.
BTW, I didn't have a vote at that time so it made no never mind what I thought.


I'm assuming you are referring to Heath taking us into the Common Market, if not, apologies for getting it wrong.

Sunbeam Alpine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:29 am The paedo who was bribed to get us into the EU ( which didn't exist then, BTW), So who was that?
And who speaks up for this person?

i posted some info for you on 'this person', that way you can speak up for them.

I used left wing rags as my sources, so that you feel more comfortable addressing the points.

Tell us how Heath got 17m to vote for it.

Tell us how many official complaints were made about heath for rape and other sex crimes

You previously seemed defensive on that matter

Tell us if that remains your position

Anything on 'Morning Cloud', paolo?

Carlos J wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:47 am Anything on 'Morning Cloud', paolo?

It was nicknamed morning sickness

Rumours about one way journeys

The debunkers quote beech

paolo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:10 pm

Carlos J wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:47 am Anything on 'Morning Cloud', paolo?

It was nicknamed morning sickness

Rumours about one way journeys

The debunkers quote beech

Read similar. Unsure on veracity.