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Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:24 am**

Zambo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am Whether or not the ship was in a seaworthy condition, could be a big factor here.

Genuine question but what does that really mean?

Does a 100,000 + tonne cargo ship have an MOT every year and who has a dry dock large enough to check the prop shafts?

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:34 am**

Carlos J wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:06 pm
birdie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:32 pm Happy to be corrected, I confess I haven't watched any news today due to personal circumstances, but will try to catch up later.
No worries as things still ongoing. Hope all OK?

Thanks Carlos, nothing too bad, just that since himself died I've been managing on about 3 hours sleep a night, but over the last couple of weeks managed to get as far a 6am, but have now gone back to the 3 or less took the chance of a snooze in the reclining chair, which turned out to be about 5 hours.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:01 pm**

Carlos J wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:52 am
paolo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:39 am 1:27 am....bridge collapses

midday...Biden says USA will pay and get it rebuilt

East Palestine....nothing

Hawaii....nothing

what about the boat's insurers?
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. (Matthew 7:7 KJV)

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1148669/Ma ... e-collapse

and:

https://www.reuters.com/business/insure ... 024-03-27/

The operative word is 'could', I don't think insurance covers negligence or lack of maintenance, but mebbe I'll go to the cemetery and ask himself, he worked at the SCA (settlement of claims abroad) at LLoyds, and no, before anyone thinks he was loaded, he wasn't a 'name', just an employee of the Corporation like hundred of others.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:02 pm**

antdad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:24 am
Zambo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am Whether or not the ship was in a seaworthy condition, could be a big factor here.
Genuine question but what does that really mean?

Does a 100,000 + tonne cargo ship have an MOT every year and who has a dry dock large enough to check the prop shafts?

Heard on the news that the vessel had passed two inspections over the last year o so, so something went wrong.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:09 pm**

Carlos J wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:25 pm
birdie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:05 pm Listening to various reports and reading between the lines it looks as though there may have been an bit of cost cutting.
My brother-in-law spent his working life, from the age of 17, on merchant vessels, anything from tankers, bulk carriers reefers and containers, he was what is jokingly called a 'chOffer' and he said that it was unusual for a ship of that size and in that location not to have a couple of tugs helping to guide the vessel out of port, and in a case of a power outage and loss of control the tugs would have been able to guide the vessel out of any danger. But, of course, tugs and river pilots don't come cheap, and it could be that the company was seeking to keep outgoings at a minimum.
This article, with views from a ship's captain, says there were two pilots on board, plus there are state and federal laws about it: https://theconversation.com/ive-captain ... ons-226700

Cargo ships are required to use pilots in most ports, lots of force in a ship of that size a 1 knot it'll generate 48000000 Newtons.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:55 pm**

birdie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:34 am
Carlos J wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:06 pm
birdie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:32 pm Happy to be corrected, I confess I haven't watched any news today due to personal circumstances, but will try to catch up later.
No worries as things still ongoing. Hope all OK?
Thanks Carlos, nothing too bad, just that since himself died I've been managing on about 3 hours sleep a night, but over the last couple of weeks managed to get as far a 6am, but have now gone back to the 3 or less took the chance of a snooze in the reclining chair, which turned out to be about 5 hours.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:41 pm**

antdad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:24 am
Zambo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:14 am Whether or not the ship was in a seaworthy condition, could be a big factor here.
Genuine question but what does that really mean?

Does a 100,000 + tonne cargo ship have an MOT every year and who has a dry dock large enough to check the prop shafts?

No idea but a bit about seaworthyness here.

https://www.attorneystevelee.com/freque ... -injuries/

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:52 pm**

Ha...yeah when I looked it up that was my first search result too. Steve Lee must be paying a fortune.

They have a chat service, maybe I'll try and get my money's worth.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:37 pm**

antdad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:52 pm Ha...yeah when I looked it up that was my first search result too. Steve Lee must be paying a fortune.

They have a chat service, maybe I'll try and get my money's worth.

State of the smarmy fucks

Steven M. Lee

Samuel B. Lee

It’s probably not going to be seen by anyone but I have just told their chatbot that they look like a pair of arseholes.

Posted: **Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:46 pm**

Good man.

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:33 am**

paolo wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:07 am Amazing way to disable major infrastructure

Probably a Ukrainian captain

Get ready for more

Conspire

expire

ship's master, a ukranian.....now deleted from company's website......most....errrrrrrr

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:39 am**

paolo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:33 am ship's master, a ukranian.....now deleted from company's website......most....errrrrrrr

We live in an age where people will track him down and do bad things to him on the basis of madcap internet theories. It's probably for his own protection.

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:05 pm**

JimmyDee wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:39 am
paolo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:33 am ship's master, a ukranian.....now deleted from company's website......most....errrrrrrr
We live in an age where people will track him down and do bad things to him on the basis of madcap internet theories. It's probably for his own protection.

Tell that to Mitch McConnells sister in law

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:29 pm**

paolo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:05 pm Tell that to Mitch McConnells sister in law

Tell me who Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law is, and then I'll say that to her.
You'll no doubt demand that I google it, but why should I do all the investigating?

You introduced her name, not me. Actually, you didn't even give her a name, now I think about it.

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:00 pm**

JimmyDee wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:29 pm
paolo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:05 pm Tell that to Mitch McConnells sister in law
Tell me who Mitch McConnell's sister-in-law is, and then I'll say that to her.
You'll no doubt demand that I google it, but why should I do all the investigating? You introduced her name, not me. Actually, you didn't even give her a name, now I think about it.

Sorry jimbo

Was still working on the ship’s captain being Ukrainian

You don’t have to google if you can’t

It’s ok….

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