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Plus Chelsea still have too sell Ziyech, CHO, and Lukaku....the Echo must think they will be given away??

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antdad wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:58 pm
Sunbeam Alpine wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:30 pm Brighton's price was £100m, no messing about.

Liverpool had no need to add the extra £11m. FFP is the reason.

Yesterday Chelsea thought they had sold Kepa but they hadn't.


Brighton are still saying the only bid they have accepted is Liverpool's.

All this has about £30m added because of the silly money paid for Fernandez.
Kepa wants to go to Madrid in what is reported to be a likely loan, that's a £5m rather than £15m loan fee. That would mean they are £10m short but it looks like CFC are going to bid £115m and £50m or so for Lavia, what does The Echo have to say about that?
Certain sources say that Caicedo has always wanted to sign for Chelsea, and that terms were agreed a few weeks ago.
Lavia would prefer to sign for Liverpool (if we believe the consensus of comments on social media), so seems like you'll get the player you want and we'll get the one we want. If players don't really want to play for you, bit pointless making them do so.
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chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:00 pm Plus Chelsea still have too sell Ziyech, CHO, and Lukaku....the Echo must think they will be given away??
Does anyone want them?
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PSG wanted Ziyech once or he might end up in Saudi as he's a muslim. Feck knows about Lukaku, hopefully the Milan fans persuade him to follow Ziyech.

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That may well be the case but that isn't in dispute. Hillo declared with absolute certainty that Liverpool's bid was related to our FFP limits based on some tittle tattle he read in The Echo.

Considering the title of this thread was initially about how Chelsea can afford what they have under FFP, it's a surprise to me he/they now know exactly what we can or can't afford. :lol:

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antdad wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:58 pm PSG wanted Ziyech once or he might end up in Saudi as he's a muslim. Feck knows about Lukaku, hopefully the Milan fans persuade him to follow Ziyech.

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That may well be the case but that isn't in dispute. Hillo declared with absolute certainty that Liverpool's bid was related to our FFP limits based on some tittle tattle he read in The Echo.

Considering the title of this thread was initially about how Chelsea can afford what they have under FFP, it's a surprise to me he/they now know exactly what we can or can't afford. :lol:
And I think it might have been the Brighton and Hove Echo... :lol: :lol:

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JudgeTedd wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:07 pm
chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:00 pm Plus Chelsea still have too sell Ziyech, CHO, and Lukaku....the Echo must think they will be given away??
Does anyone want them?
Steven Gerrard hopefully.

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kancutlawns wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:45 pm
JudgeTedd wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:07 pm
chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:00 pm Plus Chelsea still have too sell Ziyech, CHO, and Lukaku....the Echo must think they will be given away??
Does anyone want them?
Steven Gerrard hopefully.
I don't think he's that stupid

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chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:51 pm
I don't think he's that stupid
He went to Aston Villa, anything is possible bro.
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Sadact7 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:53 pm
chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:51 pm
I don't think he's that stupid
He went to Aston Villa, anything is possible bro.
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chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:51 pm
kancutlawns wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:45 pm
JudgeTedd wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:07 pm
chelseachelsea wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:00 pm Plus Chelsea still have too sell Ziyech, CHO, and Lukaku....the Echo must think they will be given away??
Does anyone want them?
Steven Gerrard hopefully.
I don't think he's that stupid
He is, really.

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Football finance reporter Mo Chatra took to social media to report: ‘any punishment relating to losses relative to the PSR Calculation in excess of £105m would be implemented THIS season’.
This came off the back of a long update on the London club’s financial standings, in which it was reported that: ‘they are many £10s of millions short of break even under PL P&S in 23/24 even if they managed to just about comply in 22/23 (which I’m skeptical about too)’.
It all boils down to the understanding that Todd Boehly can only spend a maximum of £105 million in this window and after reportedly pulling out of a move for Tyler Adams and agreeing a move for Romeo Lavia – it seems there are still irons in other fires for alternative signings this summer.
Therefore, the idea that the Londoners can afford the Ecuadorian that has caused so many headlines on top of other possible deals – is surely impossible.
That is of course unless the eccentric American owner is ready and willing to accept a points deduction in order to beat Jurgen Klopp to the signature of the 21-year-old.


It seems Boehly is ready to confront the game's authorities about the FFP rules.

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Perhaps but the window is still open and players on the books can still (I think) be sold to generate income to assist compliance if required. That's why the above and therefore according to you LFC's concrete offer made on that basis is impossible to believe or was impossibly naive.

Especially as Mo Chatra got his numbers from another desktop accountant...

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Who do you think they can sell and for how much to balance the books?
Lukaku? Doesn't seem likely
Kepa ended up as a loan
They produced £55m last summer, Mount £50m , a few bits and pieces...
And they still claim to be getting Lavia, Olise...
Remember their revenues from other sources are not that great.

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You need to get your head around depreciation of players and not having to balance the books...

Jordan explained how it might work @ approx 10.30am today.

£600m spent last year amortised over 8 years - £75m pa
£300m spent this year amortised over 5 years - £60m pa

Total = £135m of transfer loses pa

+ around £250m+ generated through sales with possibly more to come.

Therefore technically CFC are up this financial year £100m +, crazy huh?

Yes revenues will need to improve as that sort of spend isn't sustainable but it is manageable for the time being.

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