Re: Barrack Obama
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:04 pm
Aren't most countries?Kowalski wrote:I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it's pretty obvious that the USA is run by big business. They don't even try to hide it, don't they call it lobbying?
Aren't most countries?Kowalski wrote:I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it's pretty obvious that the USA is run by big business. They don't even try to hide it, don't they call it lobbying?
All countries. Think of each country as a corporation who want to consolidate their position in the market and advance their business. Given the economic situation of most countries it could be said the world is run by some pretty shit businessmen.Thursty wrote:Aren't most countries?Kowalski wrote:I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it's pretty obvious that the USA is run by big business. They don't even try to hide it, don't they call it lobbying?
Indeed, so I don't know why Obama gets so much stick.Thursty wrote:Aren't most countries?Kowalski wrote:I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it's pretty obvious that the USA is run by big business. They don't even try to hide it, don't they call it lobbying?
Immigrationpaolo wrote:riding roughshod over congress
wars
what he is allowing to happen with the dollar
smoking
obama care
fudged employment figures
Might be, might not, who can say.paolo wrote:but surely that's all conspiracy bollocks?
The main point of my post was that the CIA* have been a powerful organisation for a long time they're not about to allow some new guy to suddenly start changing things without their approval. It's the same all over the world though. Kim Jong Un might be a nice guy for all we know but he couldn't suddenly make drastic changes because of all those old guys who've held powerful (and profitable) positions for decades.Hillman avenger wrote:But as for the main part of your post- that we don't know much about the CIA, so they MUST be busy undermining democracy, is at the kindest, naïve.
Blame the puppet master, not the puppet.paolo wrote:riding roughshod over congress
wars
what he is allowing to happen with the dollar
smoking
obama care
fudged employment figures
According to reports his orders are being ignored.LaaLaa wrote:The main point of my post was that the CIA* have been a powerful organisation for a long time they're not about to allow some new guy to suddenly start changing things without their approval. It's the same all over the world though. Kim Jong Un might be a nice guy for all we know but he couldn't suddenly make drastic changes because of all those old guys who've held powerful (and profitable) positions for decades.Hillman avenger wrote:But as for the main part of your post- that we don't know much about the CIA, so they MUST be busy undermining democracy, is at the kindest, naïve.
*Or substitute any other powerful organisation in the USA if there's a more suitable I've overlooked.
very real possibilityAlcoholBrazil wrote:We could witness the Second American Civil War this century.
I suggest placing the whole Government and Senate in the hands of the Native Americans.
Agreed.the rotary club wrote:I note what could be described as the 'tea party' critique of appears to be in vogue in this thread. There are obvious parallels with the critique of politics over here oft promoted by the likes Farage and UKIP's merry men and indeed elsewhere in Europe. Isn't that a remarkable coincidence conspiracy lovers two separate countries, separate and very different political systems, thousands of miles apart and yet somehow the very same critique.
The Tea Party and UKIP both movements purporting to be grass roots movements yet funded by the wealthy elite who supposedly they are against. It's the same right wing shit as ever policies benefiting the few very well marketed to the gullible many!
Err wake up people or summat.