Re: Semi-finals: Argentina vs Croatia on 13th December
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm
Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
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Why not? Happens in cricket all the time, doing a couple of hours on TV then doing a spot on radio.black_guardian wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:20 pm Pundits shouldn't be employed on an independent contractor basis IMO.
theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league
Most of them do it - even Lineker, who the BBC treat as a figurehead, works for BT Sport.black_guardian wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:20 pm I note that pundit Karen Carney is slagging her way around every single TV network during the World Cup. One minute she's on BBC then she rolls onto ITV and by tomorrow she'll be back on the Beeb.
Whatever happened to pundits sticking to one channel as part of the coverage team for the tournament?
Pundits shouldn't be employed on an independent contractor basis IMO.
Amazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
Same with bundesliga. Why Sancho and bellingham are overratedkancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:11 pmAmazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
Are they overrated when they play for England? I’d say Bellingham has potential to be one of the top five players of his generation within a couple of years. Many highly rated Germans like Sane, Podolski and Ballack haven’t set the Premier League on fire, Harmann, Gundogan and Lehmann were really good so not sure that calling anyone who played in the Bundesliga and came to the Premier League is accurate.theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 pmSame with bundesliga. Why Sancho and bellingham are overratedkancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:11 pmAmazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
There are many players of many nations who didn't work in the Prem, but were great in other leagues.kancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:17 pmAre they overrated when they play for England? I’d say Bellingham has potential to be one of the top five players of his generation within a couple of years. Many highly rated Germans like Sane, Podolski and Ballack haven’t set the Premier League on fire, Harmann, Gundogan and Lehmann were really good so not sure that calling anyone who played in the Bundesliga and came to the Premier League is accurate.theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 pmSame with bundesliga. Why Sancho and bellingham are overratedkancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:11 pmAmazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
Think there are other factors including the much vaunted pace and blood and thunder of the Premier League, probably the physicality too.Carlos J wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:58 pmThere are many players of many nations who didn't work in the Prem, but were great in other leagues.kancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:17 pmAre they overrated when they play for England? I’d say Bellingham has potential to be one of the top five players of his generation within a couple of years. Many highly rated Germans like Sane, Podolski and Ballack haven’t set the Premier League on fire, Harmann, Gundogan and Lehmann were really good so not sure that calling anyone who played in the Bundesliga and came to the Premier League is accurate.theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 pmSame with bundesliga. Why Sancho and bellingham are overratedkancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:11 pmAmazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
The Prem is the best for coin, just look at the Champions League and Europa League to see how well it compares.
Indeed.kancutlawns wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:07 amThink there are other factors including the much vaunted pace and blood and thunder of the Premier League, probably the physicality too.Carlos J wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:58 pmThere are many players of many nations who didn't work in the Prem, but were great in other leagues.kancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:17 pmAre they overrated when they play for England? I’d say Bellingham has potential to be one of the top five players of his generation within a couple of years. Many highly rated Germans like Sane, Podolski and Ballack haven’t set the Premier League on fire, Harmann, Gundogan and Lehmann were really good so not sure that calling anyone who played in the Bundesliga and came to the Premier League is accurate.theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:12 pmSame with bundesliga. Why Sancho and bellingham are overratedkancutlawns wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:11 pmAmazing that De Bruyne, Aguero and Kompany did, eh?theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
The Prem is the best for coin, just look at the Champions League and Europa League to see how well it compares.
Yes. I’m sure he’d have been absolutely stumped at the prospect of taking on Ryan Shawcross, James Collins and Ashley fucking Williams.theleader82 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:40 pm Messi wouldn’t have had as much success in the prem league. La liga is pretty weak behind the top. 4/5 teams.
Tell your relatives, bad luck, try support further and better.kancutlawns wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:26 am What I find about Argentina is that it's a bit of a feat trying to remember the names of much of the first team players short of Lickle Leo. In about a minutes, I've remembered about three Martinez's, Di Maria, Mac Allister, Tagliafico, Otamendi, Romero, De Paul and Alvarez. Not really household names here as compared to the French, Brazilians (obvs), Belgians and to a less extent the Spanish and Portuguese. Not sure why as almost all play in Europe and are established players.
In fact, I would say that the Argentinians have a technical ability, are pretty tough and more affordable than players from other top nations. A quite undervalued footballing nation. What I find bizarre is the number of relatives I have living abroad like in the US almost all wanted Croatia to win tonight. I really can't work out why. With the greatest o' respeck, why would someone living abroad as a casual watcher without any great interest in the game support Croatia in a big international match? I can understand the genuine curiosity and hope that a Morocco goes as far as possible but Croatia? Not being mean to them as they are a technically good side, resilient and well drilled but is that really because of Luka and to a lesser extent someone like Brazovic, Kovacic and Perisic?