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Agreed, Holden. They have a lot of work to do.Holden Mcgroyne wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:26 am Must admit to feeling a degree of sympathy for Starmer for the hand he's been dealt. I'd really like to vote Labour again but today reminds you of some of the absolute pondlife there is in the Labour party. First up was the Pidcock creature (I can't be friends with a Tory) on LBC. Her seat went Tory for the first time ever, it used to have 24,000 majorities for Labour. She lost it, yet somehow deludes herself that the reason people voted Tory in Hartlepool was because they wanted Corbynism back. Next up singing from the same hymn sheet was Dianne Abbott and no triumvirate of pigshit thick politicians would be complete without Richard Burgon popping up.
I agree that they don’t represent the working class anymore, but pretty sure the conservatives don’t either. We’re turning into America where a large majority of the country vote against their best interest because the party leader has funny hairhenrycrs wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 12:48 am Labour don’t represent the working class anymore. They’ve been hijacked by the extreme left, the activists, the woke etc. Anyone who wants to be upset by anything will vote labour. That’s not what there fundamentals were about.
When you see Dianne Abbot comment that change is needed, the party really is fucked.
Not that I’d ever vote for them, but Christ they are bigger cunts than the tories.
Couple of problems though. Labour started the fightback under Blair with 50 seats in Scotland, they've gone. The new leader, Anas Sarwar cuts a really impressive figure, but I can't see a way back there. There's always been a far left faction, Tribune group in days gone by, who were always a noisy rump but without the numbers to really effect policy. They became the mainstream under Corbyn and they're not intending to be sidelined again anytime soon.subsub wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:27 amAgreed, Holden. They have a lot of work to do.Holden Mcgroyne wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:26 am Must admit to feeling a degree of sympathy for Starmer for the hand he's been dealt. I'd really like to vote Labour again but today reminds you of some of the absolute pondlife there is in the Labour party. First up was the Pidcock creature (I can't be friends with a Tory) on LBC. Her seat went Tory for the first time ever, it used to have 24,000 majorities for Labour. She lost it, yet somehow deludes herself that the reason people voted Tory in Hartlepool was because they wanted Corbynism back. Next up singing from the same hymn sheet was Dianne Abbott and no triumvirate of pigshit thick politicians would be complete without Richard Burgon popping up.
But these things do go round in cycles.
I remember when Labour lost in 92, against the odds, and people wondered how they would ever win a General Election. Then Blair won in 97 and the Tories were a shambles for 10 years etc