Ikhlaq, speak to ACAS, explain your case and get them to advise as to whether they have followed correct procedure in dismissing you. If you haven’t a case then it’s a dead end. If you have a case, ACAS will tell you you will have a case of unfair dismissal but it is very difficult to prove but at least they will tell you.
Looks like it’s better to try and put your efforts into getting another position. Good luck.
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kancutlawns wrote:Right, at the risk of looking at utter lemon and contradicting in part what I wrote previously, there is some ahem supplementary info that adds light to the OP’s redundancy. I am reliably informed by Mrs L who knows about employment law that within the first two year period (on passing probation), the person is regarded as a worker but not an employee hence doesn’t have full employee rights. Whilst being employed, he/she can be dismissed as has happened to Ikhlaq. If the matter goes to Tribunal, the organisation can hedge their case in such a way that they can put the dismissal down to poor performance and the tribunal would come down on their side rather than on the side of the worker.
It’s a pretty shit state of affairs. Apologies, I guess this just reinforces what others have said here but my better half told me the legal standpoint.
Unfortunately the worker no longer has rights and large corporations now do what they want to the little man or woman.
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kancutlawns wrote:Ikhlaq, speak to ACAS, explain your case and get them to advise as to whether they have followed correct procedure in dismissing you. If you haven’t a case then it’s a dead end. If you have a case, ACAS will tell you you will have a case of unfair dismissal but it is very difficult to prove but at least they will tell you.
Looks like it’s better to try and put your efforts into getting another position. Good luck.
I have decided to move on as I am nearly 51 and I am at a point in life where I do no need the hassle. I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife, have a roof over my head and food when I need it. So I will hopefully go look for a job where I can just chill back and relax.
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Great to be positive, Ikhlaq.
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ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
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Yes. Be an arsehole. That's nice.carcinogen wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
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carcinogen wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
Can’t you just wish Ikhlaq well? There really is no need to soil a thread about a decent, likeable poster who’s lost his job under a cloud.
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ikhlaq786 wrote:kancutlawns wrote:Ikhlaq, speak to ACAS, explain your case and get them to advise as to whether they have followed correct procedure in dismissing you. If you haven’t a case then it’s a dead end. If you have a case, ACAS will tell you you will have a case of unfair dismissal but it is very difficult to prove but at least they will tell you.
Looks like it’s better to try and put your efforts into getting another position. Good luck.
I have decided to move on as I am nearly 51 and I am at a point in life where I do no need the hassle. I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife, have a roof over my head and food when I need it. So I will hopefully go look for a job where I can just chill back and relax.
I seriously Thank you all for your supports and comments. I have been a member of this forum through thick and thin, but always the good has come through.
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Good man. You’ve got a good woman there, that’s actually the most important thing, you’ll get a job with a company with decent people, it’s what you deserve.
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ikhlaq786 wrote:kancutlawns wrote:Ikhlaq, speak to ACAS, explain your case and get them to advise as to whether they have followed correct procedure in dismissing you. If you haven’t a case then it’s a dead end. If you have a case, ACAS will tell you you will have a case of unfair dismissal but it is very difficult to prove but at least they will tell you.
Looks like it’s better to try and put your efforts into getting another position. Good luck.
I have decided to move on as I am nearly 51 and I am at a point in life where I do no need the hassle. I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife, have a roof over my head and food when I need it. So I will hopefully go look for a job where I can just chill back and relax.
I seriously Thank you all for your supports and comments. I have been a member of this forum through thick and thin, but always the good has come through.
THANK YOU.
Well done old pal, it will all pale into insignificance once you get a straight edge
onwads and upwards, and cherish what you do have, and with that support driving you, you''ll be able to move on to the next chapter
sometimes in an organisation, a face doesn't fit, a new manager etc...mate going thru it now after 19 years, but not a reflection on the person on the losing end
head up, look forward and best of luck
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carcinogen wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
You absolute fucking twat.
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subsub wrote:carcinogen wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
You absolute fucking twat.
I'd be fucked! Not anyone that has stuck with me for 32 years isn't really going to leave. Especially when you're as good looking as me.
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ikhlaq786 wrote:subsub wrote:carcinogen wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:I am not wealthy but have an amazing wife
What would happen if your wife told you she was leaving you? How would you feel then?
You absolute fucking twat.
I'd be fucked! Not anyone that has stuck with me for 32 years isn't really going to leave. Especially when you're as good looking as me.
Ha! Thanks ikhlaq786. At least you knew my comment wasn't meant to be unkind. I genuinely asked because it's not healthy relying on another person to prop you up. One should feel secure in themselves and not need an emotional crutch. I meant nothing by it and hope you and your wife life and long and happy life! Who needs a fucking job anyway. For me, love is everything.
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You utter fucking cunt. Sobering up?
You are horrible.
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The End wrote:You utter fucking cunt. Sobering up?
You are horrible.
No, actually, I've just finished my fourth can of Stella. You shouldn't be so sensitive. This forum is turning into a 'safe space'. Do you need a 'safe space' The End? Can you not handle some honest debate? Aaawww boo hoo hoo.
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kancutlawns wrote:ikhlaq786 wrote:sjbarca wrote:Seems illegal to me!m4rkb wrote:What a disgraceful attitude your 'boss' had and a disgraceful way to conjure up a cheap excuse to get rid of you. You're better off not working for him. I'd also look at the legality of what was done as it doesn't seem right to me.
My daughter works in HR and unfortunately a company can let you go within two years just by saying that your work ethic is not up to their standards.
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There’s a probation period usually of three or six months when an new employee needs to prove their standard of work and ability is up to the required standard for their position. Once they have passed probation, they can’t be dismissed just like that and are entitled to a full range of benefits including sick pay, bonuses, pension, private medical insurance, etc. I’m not clear of this two year stipulation, I thought once you’ve passed probation you simply can’t be dismissed just like that. I don’t work in HR myself.
No.
Probationary periods have no validity in law. The employer is safe in dismissing someone with less than two years service. Safe, that is, from a claim of unfair dismissal being confirmed by a tribunal.Except where it is essentially a racist or sexist act, where there is no qualifying period.
I feel that probationary periods are attractive to companies who lack confidence in their selection methods.
There is also wrongful dismissal, which is a civil action, where the aggrieved can make a claim irrespective of time served. In that case successful completion of a probationary period can be used as evidence. People do make these claims, but you are exposed, if you lose, to your own legal costs and possibly the employers.
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