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Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
by subsub
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:42 pm
by shivah
subsub wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:33 pm
theleader82 wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:48 pm
Thank you for sharing, Lead-o.
Hopkins is utterly unhinged.
Twice she said that Belfield was jailed "for making a few videos online".
No, he was jailed because he's a serial stalker.
She also said that he should be released early because he has elderly parents :rolleyes:
Perhaps he should have thought about that before doing what he did. Personally, I'd make his sentence much longer.
The argument is he's a political prisoner. He upset Whine who can't cope with any criticism and is part of the wider "elite" of the media. Belfield was also very naive - probably stupid - by not moving on to other targets and keeping a select few going.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
by shivah
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
by subsub
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:40 pm
by Vespa
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Can you name a rapist he has served longer than?

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:45 pm
by Zambo
@ subsub.

No whataboutery, unless you are saying guidelines shouldn't be questioned. If not why not, as some clearly do not bring justice for the victims of crime.

I think it's fair to use examples, where some criminals get tougher or more lenient sentences than others, and justice has not been seen to have been done.

Personally, I'm happy with a tough sentence for stalkers, but very unhappy with some of the joke sentences for serious crimes.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:11 pm
by chelseachelsea
Zambo wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:45 pm @ subsub.

No whataboutery, unless you are saying guidelines shouldn't be questioned. If not why not, as some clearly do not bring justice for the victims of crime.

I think it's fair to use examples, where some criminals get tougher or more lenient sentences than others, and justice has not been seen to have been done.

Personally, I'm happy with a tough sentence for stalkers, but very unhappy with some of the joke sentences for serious crimes.
Nail on the head
:dart:
or arraws in the bull

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:23 am
by shivah
Vespa wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:40 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Can you name a rapist he has served longer than?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/17327 ... vors-Trust

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:25 am
by shivah
subsub wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.
then the guidelines are stupid. He's been hit by a double whammy of both a criminal conviction and being hit in the civil courts for claims. The irony? This will force him to come out and do the same again as he made money from it first time round. Different targets yep.

And the fact that he still is in a cat C when he's about as tough as George from Rainbow is fucking disgusting and heaps on to the point - he's there for political reasons not for justice.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:40 am
by Vespa
shivah wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:23 am
Vespa wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:40 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Can you name a rapist he has served longer than?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/17327 ... vors-Trust
Two years for rape ... amazing

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:41 am
by Vespa
shivah wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:25 am
subsub wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.
then the guidelines are stupid. He's been hit by a double whammy of both a criminal conviction and being hit in the civil courts for claims. The irony? This will force him to come out and do the same again as he made money from it first time round. Different targets yep.

And the fact that he still is in a cat C when he's about as tough as George from Rainbow is fucking disgusting and heaps on to the point - he's there for political reasons not for justice.
He made a women's life miserable because the BBC sacked him, he gets what he deserves.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:21 pm
by theleader82
Vespa wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:41 am
shivah wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:25 am
subsub wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.
then the guidelines are stupid. He's been hit by a double whammy of both a criminal conviction and being hit in the civil courts for claims. The irony? This will force him to come out and do the same again as he made money from it first time round. Different targets yep.

And the fact that he still is in a cat C when he's about as tough as George from Rainbow is fucking disgusting and heaps on to the point - he's there for political reasons not for justice.
He made a women's life miserable because the BBC sacked him, he gets what he deserves.
He was found not guilty of stalking the 4 women from the bbc

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:42 pm
by Vespa
theleader82 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:21 pm
Vespa wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:41 am
shivah wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:25 am
subsub wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.
then the guidelines are stupid. He's been hit by a double whammy of both a criminal conviction and being hit in the civil courts for claims. The irony? This will force him to come out and do the same again as he made money from it first time round. Different targets yep.

And the fact that he still is in a cat C when he's about as tough as George from Rainbow is fucking disgusting and heaps on to the point - he's there for political reasons not for justice.
He made a women's life miserable because the BBC sacked him, he gets what he deserves.
He was found not guilty of stalking the 4 women from the bbc
He started stalking after he got the sack. He's a creep weird people support.

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:35 pm
by shivah
Have you known someone who has been properly stalked and not hurty words?

Re: Convicted and Imprisoned Stalker (Alex Bellenderfield)

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 4:36 pm
by shivah
Vespa wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:41 am
shivah wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:25 am
subsub wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:11 pm
shivah wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:43 pm
subsub wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:53 pm
theleader82 wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:38 pm He should be in a category d prison
…for a very long time
He'd had served longer than some rapists, some death by dangerous driving cretins, kiddie fiddlers etc. All for hurty words that a suing session would have sorted.
Classic whataboutery.
His sentencing was in line with the guidelines. The sentences for other crimes and offences are nothing to do with it.
then the guidelines are stupid. He's been hit by a double whammy of both a criminal conviction and being hit in the civil courts for claims. The irony? This will force him to come out and do the same again as he made money from it first time round. Different targets yep.

And the fact that he still is in a cat C when he's about as tough as George from Rainbow is fucking disgusting and heaps on to the point - he's there for political reasons not for justice.
He made a women's life miserable because the BBC sacked him, he gets what he deserves.
Nope. Wasn’t found guilty of that. Jeremy Whine an elitist got upset. That’s all.