The Israel thread

[lambrini]

It’s really simple.

These nations rely on the fact that the West won’t/haven’t historically used extreme force and keep arsing about trying to resolve conflicts AND protect innocent people.

These degenerates don’t give a fuck about women, children or innocent men.

It’s about time the West took this stance and took serious and swift action. The conflict would be over on days.

Cunts the lot of them.

Macbeth’s self-justifications were feeble—and his conscience devoured him. Yes, even Iago was a little lamb too. The imagination and the spiritual strength of Shakespeare’s evildoers stopped short at a dozen corpses. Because they had no ideology.

Ideology—that is what gives evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination….

Thanks to ideology, the twentieth century was fated to experience evildoing on a scale calculated in the millions. This cannot be denied, nor passed over, not suppressed. How, then, do we dare insist that evildoers to not exist? And who was it that destroyed these millions? Without evildoers there would have been no Archipelago.

[kancutlawns]

Israel tried full force on lebanon in 2006 and completely failed to achieve victory. Gaza is an easier target but even then it'll be more of the same.

Does Israel want to be sucked into reprisals attacks and ambushes not to mention the drain on its economy when they already have blockaded Gaza by land, air and sea?

[The Tick]

These degenerates don’t give a fuck about women, children or innocent men.

Yet you advocate the use of nuclear weapons, which would itself lead to the deaths of a horrifying number of civilians.

[kancutlawns]

It’s really simple.

These nations rely on the fact that the West won’t/haven’t historically used extreme force and keep arsing about trying to resolve conflicts AND protect innocent people.

These degenerates don’t give a fuck about women, children or innocent men.

It’s about time the West took this stance and took serious and swift action. The conflict would be over on days.

Cunts the lot of them.

It really is that simple eh? How come Israel with an ultra right government, its superpower weaponry and intelligence hasn’t cracked it? Henry, you really need to swell your incredible insight to crack the code for once and for all. You bothered much about Palestinian children being snatched and attacked by the IDF and settlers in reprisal attacks or can you explain it away by the default “they’re all cunts”?

Why should the West take swift action? It’s fuck all to do with the West. It’s an Israeli issue.

[lambrini]

Israel should respond with full force.

And what should that full force be? Love how these unqualified keyboard generals can propose such erudite and strategically intelligent action thousands of miles away without being specific. Do you think Israel should reoccupy Gaza? Do you think they should carpet bomb the territory? Yes, that would really not inflame the Gazans, Hamas and Hezbollah wouldn’t it?

I agree that retaliation isn't the right thing to do, but what would you suggest, Lawns? Should Hamas representatives (if they have any) sit down with Netanyahu and engage in talks? They don’t believe in diplomacy and reconciliation, let alone democracy and peace.The thought of being civilised and finding common ground wouldn't even enter their primitive little brains. They're animals.

[The Tick]

Animals with primitive little brains who have just managed to outwit one of the most sophisticated and hardline security states on the face of the earth.

[kancutlawns]

Animals with primitive little brains who have just managed to outwit one of the most sophisticated and hardline security states on the face of the earth.

Yup. Malign, slander, dehumanise, blockade, bomb them and then have ultra right politicians and rabbis trying to outdo each other with inflammatory, provocative and violent speech and wonder why the resentment just keeps building.

The great brains on the forum thinks it’s very simple to understand of course.

[kancutlawns]

Israel should respond with full force.

And what should that full force be? Love how these unqualified keyboard generals can propose such erudite and strategically intelligent action thousands of miles away without being specific. Do you think Israel should reoccupy Gaza? Do you think they should carpet bomb the territory? Yes, that would really not inflame the Gazans, Hamas and Hezbollah wouldn’t it?

I agree that retaliation isn't the right thing to do, but what would you suggest, Lawns? Should Hamas representatives (if they have any) sit down with Netanyahu and engage in talks? They don’t believe in diplomacy and reconciliation, let alone democracy and peace.The thought of being civilised and finding common ground wouldn't even enter their primitive little brains. They're animals.

With a weary sense of unease, seemingly decided your answer by calling them “animals”. Nice one. You may as well add your military prowess to the argument by demanding the IDF wipes the Gazans off the face of the earth. They’re all animals of course. What other justification does the IDF and the Israeli government need.

Perhaps when you’re asking a question, be prepared to wait for an answer before jumping in with a brutal polemic, eh?

[Carlos J]

Are you going to answer Lambrini's question about what you suggest then kancut? How long should her waiting time be?

After all, you call her post a 'polemic' and you must have some answers judging by your IMO snide replies to other forum members.

[kancutlawns]

Are you going to answer Lambrini's question about what you suggest then kancut?

After all, you call her post a 'polemic' and you must have some answers judging by your IMO snide replies to other forum members.

I do yeah and I think it’s a two state solution which is a mutually agreeable one and doesn’t need ultra right politicians in Israel calling the Palestinians cockroaches, evil scum and subhuman and worse. I’m sure you’ve followed the decades old conflict and know what I’m referring to.

Are you aware of Palestinian children being beaten, bundled into army vehicles and attacked by settlers across the West Bank and Gaza? Is this an acceptable response?

What specifically are you asking for a response to? The coordinated attacks yesterday by Hamas? Well, the Israelis and going to pound Gaza, raise it to the ground and kill hundreds of people regardless of you and I say.

[lambrini]

Israel should respond with full force.

And what should that full force be? Love how these unqualified keyboard generals can propose such erudite and strategically intelligent action thousands of miles away without being specific. Do you think Israel should reoccupy Gaza? Do you think they should carpet bomb the territory? Yes, that would really not inflame the Gazans, Hamas and Hezbollah wouldn’t it?

I agree that retaliation isn't the right thing to do, but what would you suggest, Lawns? Should Hamas representatives (if they have any) sit down with Netanyahu and engage in talks? They don’t believe in diplomacy and reconciliation, let alone democracy and peace.The thought of being civilised and finding common ground wouldn't even enter their primitive little brains. They're animals.

With a weary sense of unease, seemingly decided your answer by calling them “animals”. Nice one.

What should they be called, Lawns? Sensible, rational human beings? Oh, I agree! Men who rape and kill innocent people out of religious arrogance and resentment certainly deserve to keep their rights. They're not animals in the slightest! For God's sake, just listen to yourself.

If being "polemic" and a contrarian means condemning the barbaric acts of Islamic extrem then so be it.

[kancutlawns]

Israel should respond with full force.

And what should that full force be? Love how these unqualified keyboard generals can propose such erudite and strategically intelligent action thousands of miles away without being specific. Do you think Israel should reoccupy Gaza? Do you think they should carpet bomb the territory? Yes, that would really not inflame the Gazans, Hamas and Hezbollah wouldn’t it?

I agree that retaliation isn't the right thing to do, but what would you suggest, Lawns? Should Hamas representatives (if they have any) sit down with Netanyahu and engage in talks? They don’t believe in diplomacy and reconciliation, let alone democracy and peace.The thought of being civilised and finding common ground wouldn't even enter their primitive little brains. They're animals.

With a weary sense of unease, seemingly decided your answer by calling them “animals”. Nice one.

What should they be called, Lawns? Sensible, rational human beings? Oh, I agree! Men who rape and kill innocent people out of religious arrogance and resentment certainly deserve to keep their rights. They're not animals in the slightest! For God's sake, just listen to yourself.

If being "polemic" and a contrarian means condemning the barbaric acts of Islamic extrem then so be it.

What do you call the settlers and politicians who are beating innocent Gazans and calling for collective punishment against them? That’s acceptable to you is it? You OK with settlers forcing people out of their homes, burning their olive groves and attacking them? That’s acceptable to you?

[lambrini]

Are you going to answer Lambrini's question about what you suggest then kancut? How long should her waiting time be?

After all, you call her post a 'polemic' and you must have some answers judging by your IMO snide replies to other forum members.

Lawns has turned into an ol' ignoramus. It's such a shame.

[The Tick]

Israel, a nation founded by terrorist organisations such as the Haganah, Irgun and Lehi, is getting a timely taste of its own medicine.

[lambrini]

Israel should respond with full force.

And what should that full force be? Love how these unqualified keyboard generals can propose such erudite and strategically intelligent action thousands of miles away without being specific. Do you think Israel should reoccupy Gaza? Do you think they should carpet bomb the territory? Yes, that would really not inflame the Gazans, Hamas and Hezbollah wouldn’t it?

I agree that retaliation isn't the right thing to do, but what would you suggest, Lawns? Should Hamas representatives (if they have any) sit down with Netanyahu and engage in talks? They don’t believe in diplomacy and reconciliation, let alone democracy and peace.The thought of being civilised and finding common ground wouldn't even enter their primitive little brains. They're animals.

With a weary sense of unease, seemingly decided your answer by calling them “animals”. Nice one.

What should they be called, Lawns? Sensible, rational human beings? Oh, I agree! Men who rape and kill innocent people out of religious arrogance and resentment certainly deserve to keep their rights. They're not animals in the slightest! For God's sake, just listen to yourself.

If being "polemic" and a contrarian means condemning the barbaric acts of Islamic extrem then so be it.

What do you call the settlers and politicians who are beating innocent Gazans and calling for collective punishment against them? That’s acceptable to you is it? You OK with settlers forcing people out of their homes, burning their olive groves and attacking them? That’s acceptable to you?

Yay! There we go! I suspected the whataboutery would appear at some point.

For the record, no. It's not acceptable. Why do you ask? Why are you trying to justify Hamas' barbarity?