Eurovision 2024

[JimmyDee]

It's always been gay-friendly, but yes, not everyone who enjoys it is a homosexualist.

ALWAYS? Up to a point, Lord Copper. Only in the sense that it was once for all of us.
It was once just a song-contest, about the songs, and thus was gay-friendly, but also everyone else-friendly.

Now, though (at the risk of repeating myself), it's become a "gay-only" thing, mainly due to the commentators on the BBC gaying-it-up.
A classic example of how "inclusivity" becomes "exclusivity" within a very short time.

[JimmyDee]

In other news: I see Greta Thunberg and the rest of the Greens no longer care about the environment. Fuck that; that was last year! They care about this month's headlines, all about Gaza, or some fucking thing.
Aren't the Israelis good, growing their oranges, and aren't the Arabs bad, drilling all that oil? Apparently not any more, this week.

[Carlos J]

It's always been gay-friendly, but yes, not everyone who enjoys it is a homosexualist.

ALWAYS? Up to a point, Lord Copper. Only in the sense that it was once for all of us.
It was once just a song-contest, about the songs, and thus was gay-friendly, but also everyone else-friendly.

Now, though (at the risk of repeating myself), it's become a "gay-only" thing, mainly due to the commentators on the BBC gaying-it-up.
A classic example of how "inclusivity" becomes "exclusivity" within a very short time.

Inclusive agreed is a better term than gay-friendly, but then you go a.tad hyperbolic, Jim.

[Carlos J]

Dutch act out: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68993726

Wasn't keen on it anyway, a bit too try hard for me.

[Carlos J]

So we have 25 now:

1. Sweden
2. Ukraine
3. Germany
4. Luxembourg
5. Netherlands
6. Israel
7. Lithuania
8. Spain  
9. Estonia
10. Ireland
11. Latvia
12. Greece
13. United Kingdom
14. Norway
15. Italy  
16. Serbia
17. Finland
18. Portugal
19. Armenia
20. Cyprus
21. Switzerland
22. Slovenia
23. Croatia
24. Georgia
25. France  
26. Austria

[Carlos J]

Could be a bit chaotic later.

[Shedboy]

Ireland missing from the flag ceremony due to a "situation".
Film at eleven.

[Carlos J]

Ireland missing from the flag ceremony due to a "situation".
Film at eleven.

I think a few were or the one yesterday. Lots of little dramas and trying to catch up with it all, but def some fun and games this evening.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Could be an explosive finale

[Carlos J]

Could be an explosive finale

Indeed, Higgins. You never know what's going to happen on live TV.

[Sunbeam Alpine]

It's always been gay-friendly, but yes, not everyone who enjoys it is a homosexualist.

ALWAYS? Up to a point, Lord Copper. Only in the sense that it was once for all of us.
It was once just a song-contest, about the songs, and thus was gay-friendly, but also everyone else-friendly.

Now, though (at the risk of repeating myself), it's become a "gay-only" thing, mainly due to the commentators on the BBC gaying-it-up.
A classic example of how "inclusivity" becomes "exclusivity" within a very short time.

There are 26 countries all with broadcasters.
How on earth would the BBC be able to do that?

More generally, the music in Eurovision, year after year, is wall to wall rubbish

[lambrini]

It's always been gay-friendly, but yes, not everyone who enjoys it is a homosexualist.

ALWAYS? Up to a point, Lord Copper. Only in the sense that it was once for all of us.
It was once just a song-contest, about the songs, and thus was gay-friendly, but also everyone else-friendly.

Now, though (at the risk of repeating myself), it's become a "gay-only" thing, mainly due to the commentators on the BBC gaying-it-up.
A classic example of how "inclusivity" becomes "exclusivity" within a very short time.

There are 26 countries all with broadcasters.
How on earth would the BBC be able to do that?

More generally, the music in Eurovision, year after year, is wall to wall rubbish

The music isn’t rubbish, it's typically Euro pop. Big difference. Listen to contemporary pop music in any European country and it generally sounds like the stuff heard on Eurovision.

These guys, for example.

[lambrini]

I love that music video! The girls are pretty and the lads handsome. More, please.

[Sunbeam Alpine]

It's always been gay-friendly, but yes, not everyone who enjoys it is a homosexualist.

ALWAYS? Up to a point, Lord Copper. Only in the sense that it was once for all of us.
It was once just a song-contest, about the songs, and thus was gay-friendly, but also everyone else-friendly.

Now, though (at the risk of repeating myself), it's become a "gay-only" thing, mainly due to the commentators on the BBC gaying-it-up.
A classic example of how "inclusivity" becomes "exclusivity" within a very short time.

There are 26 countries all with broadcasters.
How on earth would the BBC be able to do that?

More generally, the music in Eurovision, year after year, is wall to wall rubbish

The music isn’t rubbish, it's typically Euro pop. Big difference. Listen to contemporary pop music in any European country and it generally sounds like the stuff heard on Eurovision.

These guys, for example.

No
It's rubbish

[Saints11]

It's going to be a tough evenings work for the presenters