Savile/Yewtree/Others (Part 2)

[andyrich666]

I get all my opinions from talkFORUM

The same goes for me, but only from M4rkb and Paolo

[Hillman avenger]

The point is that the individual seeks out as much information as possible before making their own informed judgement rather than relying on a single source - as has been the lazy, follow the crowd, trust the media, believe the authorities general public way of doing things for far too long.

I'm not going to tell people what is right or wrong and I agree that in many things I'm not privy to the amount or quality of data that others might be. However, I have learnt that it just isn't safe to trust those traditionally relied on to deliver the message. Hopefully more people are waking up to that on a daily basis.

Equally it's unwise to automatically believe alternatives.

[mark]

Of course, your qualifiers are key.

[Dr David Starkey]

A sentence you never thought you would read.

CourtNewsUK @CourtNewsUK · 26m 26 minutes ago

Fred the Weatherman taught Ian Brown out of the Stone Roses how to masturbate, court hears.

[AlcoholBrazil]

I get all my opinions from talkFORUM

The same goes for me, but only from M4rkb and Paolo

you could do a whole lot worse. Those two gentleman know their stuff and bring many words of wisdom to the fore.

[NorthBank]

A sentence you never thought you would read.

CourtNewsUK @CourtNewsUK · 26m 26 minutes ago

Fred the Weatherman taught Ian Brown out of the Stone Roses how to masturbate, court hears.

I've never fancied trying jury duty until today.

[carcinogen]

A sentence you never thought you would read.

CourtNewsUK @CourtNewsUK · 26m 26 minutes ago

Fred the Weatherman taught Ian Brown out of the Stone Roses how to masturbate, court hears.

What the FUCK ?!

[Lord Notin Kwestion]

Could have at least taught the cunt to sing.

[Lord Notin Kwestion]

I get all my opinions from talkFORUM

The same goes for me, but only from M4rkb and Paolo

you could do a whole lot worse. Those two gentleman know their stuff and bring many words of wisdom to the fore.

[the rotary club]

^this

[m4rkb]

Not ^ this

[colinthewarriormonkey]

Could have at least taught the cunt to sing.

Fucking LOL

Brilliant

[Glazed Earthenware Horse]

Glitter breaks down in court!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31015347

Gary Glitter broke down in tears as he explained to jurors why he had been in possession of child pornography images.

Sobbing uncontrollably, the 70-year-old said he had been in a bad place in his life, and was struggling financially, with alcohol and with drugs.

He issued a tearful apology to his fans saying: "I lost my own dignity, and I am so sorry. I am very sorry."

Christ almighty. I've been in several bad places in my life but never once did I feel the urge to watch kids being sexually tortured. Bastard!

[Rantan Zero]

Could have at least taught the cunt to sing.

Or wash his hair.

[AlcoholBrazil]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30918761

A lot of vague recollections that a top brief would pick to pieces.
A woman who claims Gary Glitter tried to rape her as a child has denied lying about the alleged attack, saying she remembers it "as if it was yesterday".
The jury at London's Southwark Crown Court was told the woman, aged under 10 at the time of the alleged assault in the mid-1970s, waited 23 years to report it.
'Exposed by chronology'
Under cross-examination, the woman described how she was only able to move away from the singer - said to have climbed into her bed smelling of alcohol and tobacco - by wrapping herself in sheets tucked under the mattress.

However, Mr Gadd's defence lawyer, Sallie Bennett-Jenkins QC, told the court that the beds in the house all had duvets.
She also told the woman the events could not have happened in 1975 because the property she referred to had not yet been bought.Ms Bennett-Jenkins put to the woman: "These allegations are totally untrue and you have been exposed by the chronology." But the woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, replied: "No I have not. It might look like that, but I haven't.

"If there have been mistakes with the chronology, I can't defend that, but what I can say is that everything I remember about the events I remember as clear as if it was yesterday."
The woman had previously told jurors she remembered a particular room in the basement of the house where she was allegedly attacked.After being shown a plan of the property she agreed that this could not have been the case as there was no basement.
During re-examination by prosecutor John Price QC, the jury was told that in early police statements the woman said she may have been unsure about the dates.
girl claims that after being asked to sit on the star's lap, he kissed her and slid his hand up her skirt, Southwark Crown Court in London heard.
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A 13-year-old girl who thought Gary Glitter was "great" was abused backstage after being introduced to him as a surprise, a court heard.Giving evidence, the woman's mum said that after watching Glitter perform, her "partner" took her and the alleged victim backstage for a "surprise" meeting with the singer.

"I honestly can't remember if I went out or stayed in the room, I'm not sure," the witness said.

She told the court that she recalled her partner exiting the room and leaving her and her daughter with Glitter.

She added that she didn't have anything to say about it. Asked if she remembered anything untoward happening in her presence, the woman replied: "No."

She said she did not know her daughter has been abused by Glitter until "recently" when the alleged victim called to tell her about it in the wake of Operation Yewtree.
ld, from Marylebone in central London, is accused of one count of attempted rape and another of indecent assault on a girl under the age of 13 in 1975.

Sallie Bennett-Jenkins QC, defending, questioned the woman about texts she exchanged with her sister regarding the allegations. One of them read: "If he did, you should go to the police, and not being funny but compensation! I know it is horrible to say, but f*****g hell, you deserve something for all the mental torture."